You know those atheists out there, both the proud, admitting ones and those who write Hindu, Muslim, Christian, or whatever religion they're born into , in the religion field in the forms and papers and yet are actually atheists?
Both these people are nothing new...
They're as old, and older than prostitution and homosexuality in fact.
Perhaps a term was not created to address them, but tout de meme, they existed.
By the way, my writing may have given u a negative notion in using the examples of prostituion and homosexuality. That was not intended. I used homosexuality because it's currently more like a trend or a cool thing that everyone is slowly starting to come out as gay or lesbian. However, homosexuality is actually nothing new and I think it's just a waste of time that people are bothering to give it all that attention by taking a side whether they're for gay rights or against gay marriage,etc.
There are tons of bigger issues that we can spread around virally and win God's approval or disapproval by, than interefering into where a person decides to puts his tongue or penis(or the equivalent) or arms . As for prostitution, I had just remembered the common notion that prostitution is the oldest profession in the world. haha!
So back to atheists, in the Qur'an you can recognize them as the people who said to each and every prophet that was sent to them : "Legends of the ancients!"
Basically people saw whatever story (with a moral and as a warning against disbelief & polytheism) that their prophet used about the people before them as either a threat to what they believed in (also legends we can say) and thus fall into disbelief out of obstinacy and perhaps for some laziness or yet for others because of peer pressure or fear or even pride, or viewed it as just some more extensions of those legends that they've already heard for, now suddenly taken to a new level by some attention-seeking lunatic or power- hungry maniac. They rejected them stories by grouping them with legends and calling them legends- thus bringing us back to "legends of the ancients".
If you're a christian or a moslem or a Jew or an american or is educated at least or an avid reader- then you've heard this "legends of the ancients" too.
Both these people are nothing new...
They're as old, and older than prostitution and homosexuality in fact.
Perhaps a term was not created to address them, but tout de meme, they existed.
By the way, my writing may have given u a negative notion in using the examples of prostituion and homosexuality. That was not intended. I used homosexuality because it's currently more like a trend or a cool thing that everyone is slowly starting to come out as gay or lesbian. However, homosexuality is actually nothing new and I think it's just a waste of time that people are bothering to give it all that attention by taking a side whether they're for gay rights or against gay marriage,etc.
There are tons of bigger issues that we can spread around virally and win God's approval or disapproval by, than interefering into where a person decides to puts his tongue or penis(or the equivalent) or arms . As for prostitution, I had just remembered the common notion that prostitution is the oldest profession in the world. haha!
So back to atheists, in the Qur'an you can recognize them as the people who said to each and every prophet that was sent to them : "Legends of the ancients!"
Basically people saw whatever story (with a moral and as a warning against disbelief & polytheism) that their prophet used about the people before them as either a threat to what they believed in (also legends we can say) and thus fall into disbelief out of obstinacy and perhaps for some laziness or yet for others because of peer pressure or fear or even pride, or viewed it as just some more extensions of those legends that they've already heard for, now suddenly taken to a new level by some attention-seeking lunatic or power- hungry maniac. They rejected them stories by grouping them with legends and calling them legends- thus bringing us back to "legends of the ancients".
If you're a christian or a moslem or a Jew or an american or is educated at least or an avid reader- then you've heard this "legends of the ancients" too.
1- God fashioned a man out of clay and from him made his wife and then told them not to come near some tree and the Satan made them fall for his trap and God sent/banished them to Earth where they reproduced and soon came us.
Science disagrees, not because it likes to disagree, but because there's apparently no proof of this "creationism".. because humans have tried fashioning their "Adams" from scratch and failed and science is about experiments and observation to prove/disprove.
2- then there's the story of God creating this earth and skies, etc in 6 or 7 days. Again, science disagrees since it can't measure that or prove it. Of course, a creationist would like to point out to them that the "doer" (creator role) is neither human nor obliged to follow scientific rules that He had created, otherwise he wouldn't be God, he'd just be the man in the sky.
3- Then there's the story of Adam's two sons, where Abel is killed by Cain or Haabeel by Qaabeel.
The world's first murder. Wish Agatha Christie had written something inspired by that.
4- Then there's the story of Noah, who builds the Ark and takes animals on it in pairs and the Great flood. Others may know this from the epic of Gilgamesh, a great literary piece- before Homer's Iliad and Odyssey too.
Unfortunately, a great flood did happen- it's hard to disprove it. And the ark had been seen by numerous eye-witnesses a long time back and the search to recover it continues now.
Unfortunately, that's not enough to say that since Noah exists, God must exist too. We can easily brush it aside calling Noah a talented lunatic.
5- Then there's the legend of Noah's children - Ham, Sam and Japheth being the fathers of the different races that exist now. Simply put, Ham fathered the black, Sam the Semites (yes, Arabs and Israelis were once just one tiny sperm inside a man called Sam ) and then there's Japheth- yes father of the whites (Aryans???).
Not to boo science, it had worked nicely uncovering essential pieces on this DNA stuff, but the whole picture comes from linguistics where we come to know that Adam spoke Arabic, and Arabic is the mother of all the languages- Semitic I mean.
6- And from the descendants of Noah comes Abraham- father of the Isaac(father of the Jews) and Ishmael(father of Arabs). Abraham is famous for many other things too- surviving being thrown into a fire, being monotheistic before God even contacted him :) (thus in Arabic he's called 'haneefan muslima'), from attempting to sacrifice his son after seeing God command him to do so in a dream, God of course spared his son's life. He's famous for establishing the House of God in Arabia. He's wife was barren and God granted him & her a child at an old age.
7- We also know Abraham's relative (nephew?) who was sent to the people of Sodom (think sodomy) and to tell them that homosexuality is wrong, but they disbelieved and God sent a rain of baked clay and overturned the land.
8- Then there's Hood sent to Aad (he's truly interesting because he's not in the bible or at least he's equivalent biblical character is lost or uncertain) Yet, in the Quran, he's frequently mentioned.Then there's Saleh sent to Thamud and his miraculous she-camel. Talking about prophets of whom little is know, there's Ilias and Ilyasa (Elijah & Elisha) too. And there's Job who was struck with illness but he didn't despair.
9- and Jonas and the whale.
10- And there's Joseph who was separated from his father (Jacob, also a prophet) by his own half-brothers, out of jealousy. Joseph who is said to be the most beautiful human being on Earth.
11- And there's David for whom Iron was made malleable. And his son, Solomon. Ever heard of King Solomon's wealth? How about his ability to speak to animals and his collection of subservient Jinns?
And the legend of the Queen of Sheba (Saba)?
12- Perhaps it's safe to assume that we're more and most familiar with Moses, who truly lived in the lion's den as he grew up adopted by the Pharoah who sought to kill every male of his people, ironic...he led the Israelis (children of Israel (Jacob , father of Joseph) and Jesus who brought the dead back to life and cured the blind and the lepers and turned rivers to wine, walked on water, etc etc... and Mary's virgin birth, though Mary herself we forget is a miracle birth and so's John(Yahya)'s birth to the old man (Zachariah).
13- And Then there's Mohammed- although at the moment you'd hear of him for reasons like Jihad and polygamy and stuff like that. He's performed many miracles too like splitting the moon, having a cloud on top of him all the time he walked, the splitting of his chest at childhood, etc.
Science disagrees, not because it likes to disagree, but because there's apparently no proof of this "creationism".. because humans have tried fashioning their "Adams" from scratch and failed and science is about experiments and observation to prove/disprove.
2- then there's the story of God creating this earth and skies, etc in 6 or 7 days. Again, science disagrees since it can't measure that or prove it. Of course, a creationist would like to point out to them that the "doer" (creator role) is neither human nor obliged to follow scientific rules that He had created, otherwise he wouldn't be God, he'd just be the man in the sky.
3- Then there's the story of Adam's two sons, where Abel is killed by Cain or Haabeel by Qaabeel.
The world's first murder. Wish Agatha Christie had written something inspired by that.
4- Then there's the story of Noah, who builds the Ark and takes animals on it in pairs and the Great flood. Others may know this from the epic of Gilgamesh, a great literary piece- before Homer's Iliad and Odyssey too.
Unfortunately, a great flood did happen- it's hard to disprove it. And the ark had been seen by numerous eye-witnesses a long time back and the search to recover it continues now.
Unfortunately, that's not enough to say that since Noah exists, God must exist too. We can easily brush it aside calling Noah a talented lunatic.
5- Then there's the legend of Noah's children - Ham, Sam and Japheth being the fathers of the different races that exist now. Simply put, Ham fathered the black, Sam the Semites (yes, Arabs and Israelis were once just one tiny sperm inside a man called Sam ) and then there's Japheth- yes father of the whites (Aryans???).
Not to boo science, it had worked nicely uncovering essential pieces on this DNA stuff, but the whole picture comes from linguistics where we come to know that Adam spoke Arabic, and Arabic is the mother of all the languages- Semitic I mean.
6- And from the descendants of Noah comes Abraham- father of the Isaac(father of the Jews) and Ishmael(father of Arabs). Abraham is famous for many other things too- surviving being thrown into a fire, being monotheistic before God even contacted him :) (thus in Arabic he's called 'haneefan muslima'), from attempting to sacrifice his son after seeing God command him to do so in a dream, God of course spared his son's life. He's famous for establishing the House of God in Arabia. He's wife was barren and God granted him & her a child at an old age.
7- We also know Abraham's relative (nephew?) who was sent to the people of Sodom (think sodomy) and to tell them that homosexuality is wrong, but they disbelieved and God sent a rain of baked clay and overturned the land.
8- Then there's Hood sent to Aad (he's truly interesting because he's not in the bible or at least he's equivalent biblical character is lost or uncertain) Yet, in the Quran, he's frequently mentioned.Then there's Saleh sent to Thamud and his miraculous she-camel. Talking about prophets of whom little is know, there's Ilias and Ilyasa (Elijah & Elisha) too. And there's Job who was struck with illness but he didn't despair.
9- and Jonas and the whale.
10- And there's Joseph who was separated from his father (Jacob, also a prophet) by his own half-brothers, out of jealousy. Joseph who is said to be the most beautiful human being on Earth.
11- And there's David for whom Iron was made malleable. And his son, Solomon. Ever heard of King Solomon's wealth? How about his ability to speak to animals and his collection of subservient Jinns?
And the legend of the Queen of Sheba (Saba)?
12- Perhaps it's safe to assume that we're more and most familiar with Moses, who truly lived in the lion's den as he grew up adopted by the Pharoah who sought to kill every male of his people, ironic...he led the Israelis (children of Israel (Jacob , father of Joseph) and Jesus who brought the dead back to life and cured the blind and the lepers and turned rivers to wine, walked on water, etc etc... and Mary's virgin birth, though Mary herself we forget is a miracle birth and so's John(Yahya)'s birth to the old man (Zachariah).
13- And Then there's Mohammed- although at the moment you'd hear of him for reasons like Jihad and polygamy and stuff like that. He's performed many miracles too like splitting the moon, having a cloud on top of him all the time he walked, the splitting of his chest at childhood, etc.
So basically, atheists existed when Noah preached, when he told about all those prophets before him (there were many) but they were dismissed as 'tales of the ancients'. Then came the day when Noah was considered as a tale of the ancients himself, when he became just a character, 'Gilgamesh' in the epic of Gilgamesh. The same happened to Abraham, Lot, Job, Jacob, Jonas, Joseph, Solomon (people debate if he actually existed) and Jesus.
Now that I've made my point that atheists have existed; if you're muslim please rest assured that they're not going to overcome your faith so let them be and no need to proclaim a jihad against them. If you're not a muslim, i am just telling you that atheism right now is like a fad..but it's actually old- it's like polka dots becoming a pretty thing again.
And if I'm an atheist, you ask?
I'll just say that you may say that you do not worship anything but it's just not possible to be free of faith, you have faith in you and you have faith in some other people, and you have faith in some things to stay the way they are and for some things to continue changing (you have faith in entropy and you have faith that physical laws will always be there for you; if you didn't you would not be alive today or reading this). So I invite you to this hypothesis that everything is an illusion, that I am one and you are one, and gravity is one illusion, and the word'illusion' that you are reading is one and this writing and your ability to understand yourself is one. What's left?
I also invite you to another scientific hypothesis, treat this world as a business-- a trade..
In business there are risks, and what we want is to win even if we have to sacrifice something in the present. If you die today and find out that God does not exist, are you at a loss that you died an atheist? of course, not.
if you die today and find out that Gods exist, and you've lived a life they're unhappy with, are you at a loss? Yes, perhaps, if they choose to put you in hell or through karma.
If you died today and found out that Allah only exists, and as the only sin that he doesn't forgive (as he mentions in the Quran) is Shirk (polytheism) [which you did commit if you're an atheist, since you equated science/your rationale to God himself in your disbelief) then of course you're at a loss for eternity as compared to the 25 or maximum 120 years you spent on earth enjoying your life in the illusion.
If you're a businessman, what would you choose, bearing in mind that you may die in 2 minutes or a 110 years later.. bearing in mind that no matter which way you live this life, if the meaning of it is that you end in dust in the end and so do all the things you ever touched and the people you've ever met and so do the people you've never met and will never meet.
Also, in what world would people continue this tradition of a 'lunatic' appearing every once in a while to a big town to remind them of the oneness of God? Bear in mind that if Noah's real, the man preached for ~900 years, would any one who does not believe in what he's saying even last 90 minutes speaking for such a cause? History and archaeology actually supports that these giants of humanity existed and thus nothing about their existence is actually so hard to believe, until you come to the miracles. But for that again, there's witnesses, dead and yet their accounts live as in the bible, the legend of Gilgamesh, the compiled Quran, the Torah, the account of a Hindu king on witnessing the splitting of the moon, etc.
Don't take my word for it, search for yourself, Google, or better still go to the digs for yourself if you can afford to and take me with you :D.
http://www.accuracyingenesis.com/sodom.htmlhttp://al3ajaib.blogspot.com/2011/12/blog-post.html
http://www.accuracyingenesis.com/adam.html
http://christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a001.html
http://www.sunnyskyz.com/good-news/470/Noah-s-Ark-Has-Been-Found-Why-Are-They-Keeping-Us-In-The-Dark-http://www.realdiscoveries.info/Sodom-and-Gomorrah_2.php
Also look at how accurately the Quran describes them, even more accurately than the bible and Torah !
Lastly, let's look at the fighting brothers- the Jews and Arabs. Who in their right mind would fight for this long if they did not really believe in their cause, by which I mean they're not blindly following something that their ancestors have left for them. These are educated folks we're talking about here now, not those people of old. They're no longer bound and made to carry the sins of their ancestors, and yet their coming to the same conclusions- not talking about terrorists/extremists here please. What makes them(normal, moderate) people of faith carry on believing?
If atheism was completely rational, it'd have won over these other religions' people.
It's not something new, I repeat.
So, for those so proud of it, dude you didn't discover something new. It'll phase out, let's hope you'll live long to witness it.
I'll just conclude with these perfect words, in the hope that they'd make up for my no-way-near-perfect words above & To err is human and because faith is not something that you can measure or pass on to someone just because you want to- so I'll say to an unbeliever what God tells Muhammad to say in the Quran in Surat al-Kafiroon (a very short chapter called the Unbelievers):
Say 'O, believers
I do not worship what you worship
And you do not worship what I worship.
And I will not worship what you worship.
And you will not worship what I worship.
You have your religion and I have mine!'
Now that I've made my point that atheists have existed; if you're muslim please rest assured that they're not going to overcome your faith so let them be and no need to proclaim a jihad against them. If you're not a muslim, i am just telling you that atheism right now is like a fad..but it's actually old- it's like polka dots becoming a pretty thing again.
And if I'm an atheist, you ask?
I'll just say that you may say that you do not worship anything but it's just not possible to be free of faith, you have faith in you and you have faith in some other people, and you have faith in some things to stay the way they are and for some things to continue changing (you have faith in entropy and you have faith that physical laws will always be there for you; if you didn't you would not be alive today or reading this). So I invite you to this hypothesis that everything is an illusion, that I am one and you are one, and gravity is one illusion, and the word'illusion' that you are reading is one and this writing and your ability to understand yourself is one. What's left?
I also invite you to another scientific hypothesis, treat this world as a business-- a trade..
In business there are risks, and what we want is to win even if we have to sacrifice something in the present. If you die today and find out that God does not exist, are you at a loss that you died an atheist? of course, not.
if you die today and find out that Gods exist, and you've lived a life they're unhappy with, are you at a loss? Yes, perhaps, if they choose to put you in hell or through karma.
If you died today and found out that Allah only exists, and as the only sin that he doesn't forgive (as he mentions in the Quran) is Shirk (polytheism) [which you did commit if you're an atheist, since you equated science/your rationale to God himself in your disbelief) then of course you're at a loss for eternity as compared to the 25 or maximum 120 years you spent on earth enjoying your life in the illusion.
If you're a businessman, what would you choose, bearing in mind that you may die in 2 minutes or a 110 years later.. bearing in mind that no matter which way you live this life, if the meaning of it is that you end in dust in the end and so do all the things you ever touched and the people you've ever met and so do the people you've never met and will never meet.
Also, in what world would people continue this tradition of a 'lunatic' appearing every once in a while to a big town to remind them of the oneness of God? Bear in mind that if Noah's real, the man preached for ~900 years, would any one who does not believe in what he's saying even last 90 minutes speaking for such a cause? History and archaeology actually supports that these giants of humanity existed and thus nothing about their existence is actually so hard to believe, until you come to the miracles. But for that again, there's witnesses, dead and yet their accounts live as in the bible, the legend of Gilgamesh, the compiled Quran, the Torah, the account of a Hindu king on witnessing the splitting of the moon, etc.
Don't take my word for it, search for yourself, Google, or better still go to the digs for yourself if you can afford to and take me with you :D.
http://www.accuracyingenesis.com/sodom.htmlhttp://al3ajaib.blogspot.com/2011/12/blog-post.html
http://www.accuracyingenesis.com/adam.html
http://christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a001.html
http://www.sunnyskyz.com/good-news/470/Noah-s-Ark-Has-Been-Found-Why-Are-They-Keeping-Us-In-The-Dark-http://www.realdiscoveries.info/Sodom-and-Gomorrah_2.php
Also look at how accurately the Quran describes them, even more accurately than the bible and Torah !
Lastly, let's look at the fighting brothers- the Jews and Arabs. Who in their right mind would fight for this long if they did not really believe in their cause, by which I mean they're not blindly following something that their ancestors have left for them. These are educated folks we're talking about here now, not those people of old. They're no longer bound and made to carry the sins of their ancestors, and yet their coming to the same conclusions- not talking about terrorists/extremists here please. What makes them(normal, moderate) people of faith carry on believing?
If atheism was completely rational, it'd have won over these other religions' people.
It's not something new, I repeat.
So, for those so proud of it, dude you didn't discover something new. It'll phase out, let's hope you'll live long to witness it.
I'll just conclude with these perfect words, in the hope that they'd make up for my no-way-near-perfect words above & To err is human and because faith is not something that you can measure or pass on to someone just because you want to- so I'll say to an unbeliever what God tells Muhammad to say in the Quran in Surat al-Kafiroon (a very short chapter called the Unbelievers):
Say 'O, believers
I do not worship what you worship
And you do not worship what I worship.
And I will not worship what you worship.
And you will not worship what I worship.
You have your religion and I have mine!'